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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.dobermandan.com/ben-settle-headline-split-test-results/#comment-3894</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 17:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dan, 
 
Actually, I don&#039;t think you had enough actions taken to really judge whether there was any difference in open rates or click throughs. 
 
I sometimes split test the same headline against itself. 
 
Now that may sound weird - but what it lets me do is test random variability. I&#039;ve had open rates 20% higher on one side of a split test for exactly the same headline. 
 
So what it means is that with relatively small sample sizes (the last one I did was with something over twice the size of the list you&#039;re reporting results for) you can get big variations in open rates just to random factors. it&#039;s nothing to do with any difference in the headlines. 
 
So I&#039;m always cautious now in overintrpreting the results of a split test. For my list I ignore any differences less than 20% as they could be completely random.  
 
With a bigger list that number is going to go down. But just be wary of jumping to conclusions. 
 
Interestingly, the numbers were still very different after a week - but closed up to about 10% apart after 2-3 weeks. 
 
Ian </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan, </p>
<p>Actually, I don&#039;t think you had enough actions taken to really judge whether there was any difference in open rates or click throughs. </p>
<p>I sometimes split test the same headline against itself. </p>
<p>Now that may sound weird &#8211; but what it lets me do is test random variability. I&#039;ve had open rates 20% higher on one side of a split test for exactly the same headline. </p>
<p>So what it means is that with relatively small sample sizes (the last one I did was with something over twice the size of the list you&#039;re reporting results for) you can get big variations in open rates just to random factors. it&#039;s nothing to do with any difference in the headlines. </p>
<p>So I&#039;m always cautious now in overintrpreting the results of a split test. For my list I ignore any differences less than 20% as they could be completely random.  </p>
<p>With a bigger list that number is going to go down. But just be wary of jumping to conclusions. </p>
<p>Interestingly, the numbers were still very different after a week &#8211; but closed up to about 10% apart after 2-3 weeks. </p>
<p>Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Dixon</title>
		<link>http://www.dobermandan.com/ben-settle-headline-split-test-results/#comment-2252</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex Dixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you be able to share this result over on A/B Tests dot com?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you be able to share this result over on A/B Tests dot com?</p>
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		<title>By: dobermandan</title>
		<link>http://www.dobermandan.com/ben-settle-headline-split-test-results/#comment-1836</link>
		<dc:creator>dobermandan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would click on that just to find out if you&#039;re a pervert or something! :)  
  
Seriously, though... good example, Ryan. Curiosity is a powerful thing we copywriters and marketers can use for all kinds of things.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would click on that just to find out if you&#039;re a pervert or something! <img src='http://www.dobermandan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Seriously, though&#8230; good example, Ryan. Curiosity is a powerful thing we copywriters and marketers can use for all kinds of things.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Healy</title>
		<link>http://www.dobermandan.com/ben-settle-headline-split-test-results/#comment-1835</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I actually did run a positive Ben Settle headline back in January 2009, and it got a 29.1% open rate and 16.7% click-thru rate. The subject line was: 
 
Why I Think of Ben Settle Every Time I Take a Shower 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ryanhealy.com/ben-settle-says-take-more-showers/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ryanhealy.com/ben-settle-says-take-mor...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
I thought the whole thing was hilarious. Then again, I&#039;ve got a sense of humor that would fit right in with junior high kids. ;-) 
 
Ryan </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I actually did run a positive Ben Settle headline back in January 2009, and it got a 29.1% open rate and 16.7% click-thru rate. The subject line was: </p>
<p>Why I Think of Ben Settle Every Time I Take a Shower<br />
<a href="http://www.ryanhealy.com/ben-settle-says-take-more-showers/" target="_blank">http://www.ryanhealy.com/ben-settle-says-take-mor&#8230;</a> </p>
<p>I thought the whole thing was hilarious. Then again, I&#039;ve got a sense of humor that would fit right in with junior high kids. <img src='http://www.dobermandan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Ryan</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun O&#039;Reilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun O&#039;Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure thing. 
 
I didn&#039;t mean to imply not using negative subject lines.  
 
You&#039;re absolutely right - negative subject lines can often get  
higher open rates.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure thing. </p>
<p>I didn&#039;t mean to imply not using negative subject lines.  </p>
<p>You&#039;re absolutely right &#8211; negative subject lines can often get<br />
higher open rates.</p>
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		<title>By: dobermandan</title>
		<link>http://www.dobermandan.com/ben-settle-headline-split-test-results/#comment-1647</link>
		<dc:creator>dobermandan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a marketer you can&#039;t ignore human nature.  People gravitate to the negative much more than the positive. That&#039;s why the news media always says &quot;If it bleeds, it leads.&quot;  
  
So this kind of stuff, as I&#039;ve proven in many tests, gets a much higher response... but as you&#039;ve pointed out, at what long term expense?  
  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a marketer you can&#039;t ignore human nature.  People gravitate to the negative much more than the positive. That&#039;s why the news media always says &quot;If it bleeds, it leads.&quot;  </p>
<p>So this kind of stuff, as I&#039;ve proven in many tests, gets a much higher response&#8230; but as you&#039;ve pointed out, at what long term expense?</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun O&#039;Reilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun O&#039;Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And therein lies the problem. 
 
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then people perceive it 
as a... duck (whether it is or not). 
 
The &quot;bad news&quot; and &quot;I HATE Joe Blow&quot; type headlines can have  
this adverse side-effect. 
 
Using a stale or overused headline potentially labels you as one 
of &#039;those&#039;... 
 
As just one of many instead of one of a kind with something  
interesting, unique and valuable to say. The latter will get you 
opened and read again and again. 
 
Part of my job as a marketer is to continually communicate and 
reinforce my uniqueness and - yep - subject lines is a small part 
of that. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And therein lies the problem. </p>
<p>If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then people perceive it<br />
as a&#8230; duck (whether it is or not). </p>
<p>The &quot;bad news&quot; and &quot;I HATE Joe Blow&quot; type headlines can have<br />
this adverse side-effect. </p>
<p>Using a stale or overused headline potentially labels you as one<br />
of &#039;those&#039;&#8230; </p>
<p>As just one of many instead of one of a kind with something<br />
interesting, unique and valuable to say. The latter will get you<br />
opened and read again and again. </p>
<p>Part of my job as a marketer is to continually communicate and<br />
reinforce my uniqueness and &#8211; yep &#8211; subject lines is a small part<br />
of that.</p>
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		<title>By: dobermandan</title>
		<link>http://www.dobermandan.com/ben-settle-headline-split-test-results/#comment-1628</link>
		<dc:creator>dobermandan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple years ago one of the gurus (I think it was Frank Kern) did a video or blog post about what a great open rate he got with the subject &quot;Bad news&quot;. For months after that, everybody and their brother in this incestuous little IM niche was using that headline. It made me laugh every time I saw it.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple years ago one of the gurus (I think it was Frank Kern) did a video or blog post about what a great open rate he got with the subject &quot;Bad news&quot;. For months after that, everybody and their brother in this incestuous little IM niche was using that headline. It made me laugh every time I saw it.</p>
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		<title>By: owenrjohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.dobermandan.com/ben-settle-headline-split-test-results/#comment-1623</link>
		<dc:creator>owenrjohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, 
 
Two reasons I opened the email with whichever headline it had: The name Ben Settle rang a faint bell and I wanted to find out why and second, I open every email you send me. Trust, like Shaun said. 
 
I suspect your split test would have been more revealing if you were sending only to NEW subscribers or a fresh list. Of course, your open percentage would have sucked worse than Ben.:-) 
 
Overall, I agree with Shaun&#039;s comments. And Jerry&#039;s, too. The negative headline tactic is so overused, it&#039;s gotten stale for me. I would have used a headline like &quot;Why you NEED to subscribe to Ben Settle&#039;s newsletter.&quot; That, coming from someone I trust for good advice would hook me in a nanosecond.  
 
Owen </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, </p>
<p>Two reasons I opened the email with whichever headline it had: The name Ben Settle rang a faint bell and I wanted to find out why and second, I open every email you send me. Trust, like Shaun said. </p>
<p>I suspect your split test would have been more revealing if you were sending only to NEW subscribers or a fresh list. Of course, your open percentage would have sucked worse than Ben.:-) </p>
<p>Overall, I agree with Shaun&#039;s comments. And Jerry&#039;s, too. The negative headline tactic is so overused, it&#039;s gotten stale for me. I would have used a headline like &quot;Why you NEED to subscribe to Ben Settle&#039;s newsletter.&quot; That, coming from someone I trust for good advice would hook me in a nanosecond.  </p>
<p>Owen</p>
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		<title>By: dobermandan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dobermandan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True dat.  
  
But if a new subscriber chooses to be offended by something and ignores the message because of the messenger, I&#039;m truly glad to see them go.  
  
I can&#039;t stand to be around the easily offended. They used to be a threat to my survival. I wrote an article about it here:  
  
&lt;a href=&quot;http://dobermandan.com/dont-discard-the-message-because-of-the-messenger/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://dobermandan.com/dont-discard-the-message-b...&lt;/a&gt;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://dobermandan.com/dont-discard-the-message-b...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True dat.  </p>
<p>But if a new subscriber chooses to be offended by something and ignores the message because of the messenger, I&#039;m truly glad to see them go.  </p>
<p>I can&#039;t stand to be around the easily offended. They used to be a threat to my survival. I wrote an article about it here:  </p>
<p><a href="http://dobermandan.com/dont-discard-the-message-because-of-the-messenger/" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://dobermandan.com/dont-discard-the-message-b...</a>" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://dobermandan.com/dont-discard-the-message-b..." rel="nofollow">http://dobermandan.com/dont-discard-the-message-b&#8230;</a></p>
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